The interview, as all of my creative interviews, is available on multiple platforms: YouTube, Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Audible, Amazon Music, Podbean, or wherever you prefer to get your podcasts.
Audible! https://www.audible.com/pd/B0D65NQBG6?action_code=ASSGB149080119000H&share_location=pdp
My second interview with author J.M. Celi